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Public Service Announcement.

North American women under 45! All people!

Please stop pronouncing data as if it were spelled datta.
  1. It is a Latin word fully integrated into English.

  2. It has two syllables.

  3. The first syllable ends in a vowel.

  4. The second syllable begins with a consonant.

Therefore, the vowel is a "long" vowel.

Other examples:

major
label
hero
nolo
penis
Dido
Fido
Linus
humor
motor
viper
siren
locus
veto
lupus
homo
minor
zero
piper
papus
bonus
focus
total
super
tuber

Comments

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trixiefirecat
Aug. 31st, 2007 08:52 pm (UTC)
if you need additional help, watch some star trek next generation and look for the green man.
scythrop
Aug. 31st, 2007 09:12 pm (UTC)
Oh Jesus, the day I start referencing Star Trek to back up my assertions is the day I truly have to admit what a dork I am. For once. Because nothing I have ever said before would indicate that. Ha.
aslant
Aug. 31st, 2007 09:00 pm (UTC)
why only women?
scythrop
Aug. 31st, 2007 09:09 pm (UTC)
I was just about to footnote that. It's not only women or only young people or only ... well, it is only North Americans ... but that is like the triple-crossover most-likely demographic for saying "datta."

This PSA is driven by the super annoying, elaborate form of upspeak employed by a panelist on the last session I was held hostage at. Her speech pattern made the pronunciation especially egregious to my ears.
(no subject) - bing_crosby - Aug. 31st, 2007 09:34 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - scythrop - Aug. 31st, 2007 11:53 pm (UTC) - Expand
macrame_owl
Aug. 31st, 2007 09:01 pm (UTC)
this was fun :)
scythrop
Aug. 31st, 2007 09:10 pm (UTC)
I feel like a jerk for posting it.

A righteous jerk, mind you ;)
redwill
Aug. 31st, 2007 09:25 pm (UTC)
um... therefore ''homicide'' is pronounced approximately as though it were 'home aside'? I've always thought that 'homicide' meant housekilling, anyway. :D
trixiefirecat
Aug. 31st, 2007 09:53 pm (UTC)
disqualified
three syllables
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scythrop
Sep. 1st, 2007 12:00 am (UTC)
I remember you had a rant of your own about this. Fools. It's simple common sense people! Holy, holly.
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scythrop
Sep. 1st, 2007 12:05 am (UTC)
People who say "datta" are always wrong, and yet they are often the type who put on the sort of air that they couldn't possibly be. Or not, I don't know, I just remember someone telling me that he'd heard a woman make fun of the (indisputably correct) pronunciation as "common" or "trashy" or something. OH HOW I WISH I'D BEEN THERE.
bird
Aug. 31st, 2007 10:49 pm (UTC)
leave it to you to bring "penis" into this.
scythrop
Sep. 1st, 2007 12:08 am (UTC)
I can't help but bring it, yo!
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hazel_rah
Aug. 31st, 2007 10:57 pm (UTC)
Dr. Pulaski called him Commander Datta! He asked her not to though.
macrame_owl
Sep. 1st, 2007 12:06 am (UTC)
haha i love this footnote!
hollowuvula
Aug. 31st, 2007 11:07 pm (UTC)
But, vide 'massa'.
hollowuvula
Aug. 31st, 2007 11:07 pm (UTC)
Oh, snap, first syllable ends in a consonant. Nvm.
hazel_rah
Aug. 31st, 2007 11:44 pm (UTC)
Also, if you use the "datta" pronunciation, your syllables will be /d@t'&/ instead of /deI't&/, which is perfectly normal English syllabification.
scythrop
Aug. 31st, 2007 11:49 pm (UTC)
Whenever I have a sleep-deprivation/adrenaline induced rant about language, your reasoned approval (if given! you're no pushover) is sweet, sweet heroin.
(no subject) - hazel_rah - Sep. 1st, 2007 04:00 am (UTC) - Expand
Roger that. - scythrop - Sep. 1st, 2007 04:06 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Roger that. - hazel_rah - Sep. 1st, 2007 08:25 am (UTC) - Expand
sorenlundi
Sep. 1st, 2007 03:02 am (UTC)
Wait, I thought 'datta' was the British pronounciation? I'm pretty sure that's what they say on Doctor Who. Or are you just saying North Americans shouldn't use it?
scythrop
Sep. 1st, 2007 04:03 am (UTC)
OK, I really need hazel_rah's intervention here, because Doctor Who + linguistics...

But the British are responsible for turning Latin pater (pah-TEHR) into PAY-tur, so I plead ignorance. But my advisor is British and has always said DAY-ta.
chiffonade
Sep. 1st, 2007 08:34 am (UTC)
Haha, this is funny because I recently said "datta" at work -- I don't know why, it just came out that way -- and felt like an idiot for the rest of the day.
scythrop
Sep. 1st, 2007 02:04 pm (UTC)
Egads! And you admit this??

No, I can remember being confused about the pronunciation myself at one point due to the proliferation of "datta"-sayers, and I'm sure I've said both in the past, which is why I made an effort to figure it out for reals.
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mesopotamia
Sep. 4th, 2007 06:21 am (UTC)
I am very confused, and it reminds me of the time I sent a Jewish friend a text message asking how to pronounce a particular holiday just before I went on air and being confused by his response "pronounce like shaft" - but is that American like shaaaft or British like sharft? So what is this "datta" - do I say day-ta or datta (like matter, I assume) or do I say dar-tar (which is how I have always pronounced).

Also. This is the first time I have looked at LJ in many moons and I am glad to see that you are still challenging me (and also alive, hello!).
scythrop
Sep. 6th, 2007 05:09 am (UTC)
Still alive and it's good you are as well. My prescriptive moment with data seems to have passed, but I definitely share in the frustration/hilariousness of pronunciation guides across English-speaking natgions. Those "extra" r's throw me every time! I remember trying to read a British guide to French ... fugettaboutit.
malgre
Sep. 6th, 2007 10:52 pm (UTC)
1001001 SOS
Images conflicting
into datta overload.


(and, because this is too good to be true:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11vlmjvxxdw )


scythrop
Sep. 6th, 2007 11:22 pm (UTC)
... _ _ _ ...
Is citing a pronunciation from a Rush song more geeky than referencing Star Trek TNG? I wonder...

What's funny is that just a couple weeks ago I watched at least a dozen Rush clips in a row. Somehow I didn't make it up to 1985 (although that "1001001 SOS/in distress" chorus still gets stuck in my head all the time).

It's too bad Rush didn't have the glamour to go with the geekiness. Binary code might get stuck in the head of someone who listens to it while learning COBOL, but only Kate Bush can sing Pi to 115 places and use waveforms to turn seascapes into birdsong.

Re: ... _ _ _ ... - malgre - Sep. 7th, 2007 01:43 am (UTC) - Expand
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