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Heirs & Rebels.

In news slightly related to my earlier entry, I was shocked to come to the realization recently that a certain Mr. Nik Kershaw appears to have lifted one of his most recognizable mid-'80s melodies from a certain Mr. Ralph Vaughan Williams (co-editor of The English Hymnal with liturgist/hottie P.D.), specifically his Fantasia on Greensleeves. Please have a listen to both of these excellent pieces and tell me if I am reading hearing too much into the matter.

☞  Nik Kershaw – The Riddle  ☜
(The main melody, as in 0:05 – 0:28.)

☞  Academy of St. Martin-in-the-Fields/Marriner – Fantasia on Greensleeves  ☜
(The middle third, which joins the two more traditional instances of "Greensleeves," esp. 02:09 – 02:30.)


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And finally, a punctuation question. I will not judge you based on your answers, or subcategorize people or any of that nonsense. I just want to get a sense of what people think is correct or most acceptable. So please, answer truthfully and without fear...

Which would you use?

Vaughan Williams' Fantasia on Greensleeves
24(80.0%)
Vaughan Williams's Fantasia on Greensleeves
6(20.0%)
Vaughan Williamses Fantasia on Greensleeves
0(0.0%)
Vaughan William's Fantasia on Greensleeves
0(0.0%)

How would you pronounce it?

vahn williamz
14(50.0%)
vahn williamziz
14(50.0%)

Which would you use?

the Vaughan Williamses' weren't really Yellow Book types
0(0.0%)
the Vaughan Williams' weren't really Yellow Book types
4(15.4%)
the Vaughan Williams's weren't really Yellow Book types
1(3.8%)
the Vaughan Williamses weren't really Yellow Book types
21(80.8%)

Comments

fordmadoxfraud
Jan. 13th, 2006 07:31 pm (UTC)
I would remonstrate very strongly for Vaughan Williams's. Most folks (as clearly indicated by your poll) simply leave it at a single apostrophe, because of how you make plural words like teachers (e.g.) possessive, as teachers'. But even though Vaughan Williams looks like a plural, it ain't. Therefore, apostrophe s.

Because it's so confusing, though, and there is a not inconsiderable percentage of readers who will get hung up on your Vaughan Williams'(s) for just a second, wondering if that (however that is) is really the way it ought to go, my strongest feeling is that you should just recast both sentences in some way so that it's no longer an issue, e.g.:

Fantasia on Greensleeves by Vaughan Williams

and maybe something like

'if any family was the Yellow Book type, the family of Vaughan Williams was not it.'

The second is awkward any way you put it, I think. I've only succeeded in making it wordier.

Or perhaps append it is a clause to a sentence ending in 'Vaughan Williams'?

'None of these criticisms would have been lost on Vaughan Williams; his family wasn't really the Yellow Book type.'
scythrop
Jan. 13th, 2006 10:31 pm (UTC)
Well, I'm about to summarize my findings, so I suppose I can reveal my biases — which are that I agree with you on all points! (Except maybe that I don't find the Vaughan Williamses all that awkward.)

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