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Heirs & Rebels.

In news slightly related to my earlier entry, I was shocked to come to the realization recently that a certain Mr. Nik Kershaw appears to have lifted one of his most recognizable mid-'80s melodies from a certain Mr. Ralph Vaughan Williams (co-editor of The English Hymnal with liturgist/hottie P.D.), specifically his Fantasia on Greensleeves. Please have a listen to both of these excellent pieces and tell me if I am reading hearing too much into the matter.

☞  Nik Kershaw – The Riddle  ☜
(The main melody, as in 0:05 – 0:28.)

☞  Academy of St. Martin-in-the-Fields/Marriner – Fantasia on Greensleeves  ☜
(The middle third, which joins the two more traditional instances of "Greensleeves," esp. 02:09 – 02:30.)


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And finally, a punctuation question. I will not judge you based on your answers, or subcategorize people or any of that nonsense. I just want to get a sense of what people think is correct or most acceptable. So please, answer truthfully and without fear...

Which would you use?

Vaughan Williams' Fantasia on Greensleeves
24(80.0%)
Vaughan Williams's Fantasia on Greensleeves
6(20.0%)
Vaughan Williamses Fantasia on Greensleeves
0(0.0%)
Vaughan William's Fantasia on Greensleeves
0(0.0%)

How would you pronounce it?

vahn williamz
14(50.0%)
vahn williamziz
14(50.0%)

Which would you use?

the Vaughan Williamses' weren't really Yellow Book types
0(0.0%)
the Vaughan Williams' weren't really Yellow Book types
4(15.4%)
the Vaughan Williams's weren't really Yellow Book types
1(3.8%)
the Vaughan Williamses weren't really Yellow Book types
21(80.8%)

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rackmount
Jan. 13th, 2006 03:17 pm (UTC)
I have never even been tempted by anything other than williams' and "williams" (as the pronunciation). It's really not that odd to say, once you get used to it. I've never said anything else.

I'm beginning to overthink it now, but my first instinct on the last question is "none of the above." the plural of williams is williams. If I recall correctly, to make plural a word ending in [consanant] + "s", you leave it as is. to make plural a word ending in [vowel] + "s", you add "es." So, "harnesses," but also

(obviously, there are some nuances there. I believe where the final consant is a member of a "hissing sound" (ch, sh, etc), you add "es." also, where the vowel is "i" e.g., "synopsis," you change the "i" rather than adding an extra "es.")

so I started to overthink it, and found this.

still, i get the feeling my usage is correct, if perhaps archaic. ill see if i can find anything else.
rackmount
Jan. 13th, 2006 03:18 pm (UTC)
oops, i meant to end that sentence with "williams," of course.

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